the major convention in norway has just been concluded and the regional newspaper covering the area published an article, incl.
a link to the video, lesson 2, of the sparlock video.. this is a rough translation through google transalte:.
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=no&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=no&ie=utf-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3a%2f%2fh-a.no%2fnyheter%2fnyheter%2ftabid%2f72%2farticleview%2ftrue%2fmoduleid%2f168356%2fdefault.aspx.
this will not dent the JWs one bit, but thats not important.
the good that comes from Sparlock is that more people will come to realize the JWs are at best, crazies to be avoided. With all thats going on the JWs will find it harder and harder in the coming years to get an ear to listen.
oz
i know this has been covered before but i came across this video and feel sickened by it..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr2jn0ntmjy&feature.
I see the hedge fund situation the same as the UN scandle.
the subject can get disected to death but the bottom line is that they just should not be in the same sentance. They are on record as opposed to the UN, and using the world to the full from a finacial point of veiw.
Sure they may be 'allowed' to do stuff by law or whatever, bu it plainly makes a mockery out of the whole ''jehovah will provide the funds'' jargon
IF i was still 'in', the whole hedge fund thing would have seriously knocked my faith around...
oz
how is it possible for a jw to go to the dc and not know about sparlock?.
Lights are on but nobody is home
oz
i am still physically in but am completely out mentally.. i was curious for those who spent some time in the borg while being mentally out or are still in that position, what is the worst, hardest or most awkward parts... for me i intensly dislike attending the meetings however its bearable as i can just let my mind wander, but field service is awful.
i cannot try to bring someone in to a group that i am trying to plot a way out of.
so now i try my best to either spend the day driving around to others fruitless rv's (we have somewhat rural territory) or eating out at an extended breakfast or if door to door cannot be avoided, i try to work alone and not ring bells.
Thankyou for your post
i have a teenager not living with me that is mentaly out and physicaly in. It has been very hard for her to 'fly under the radar'. Fortunatly she isnt dragged door to door very often (unless the CO is visiting) and she ignores the attempts to get her to have a bible publication study.
I help her to see that it will get harder the longer it goes on, she has an 'out', just isn't ready to use it.
Oz
1. have an apostate food truck outside with free burritos and shasta cola.. 2. wear a smurf costume and run across the stage.. 3. bikini car wash across the street.. 4. have an old-school breakdancing session on the corner, cardboard and all.
bonus if you do it on a mat made of watchtowers and primary colored book covers.. 5. have a garage sale or flea market in the neighborhood during the afternoon session.. 6. sit in the audience and applaud everything that anybody says - try to get a standing ovation for each sentence of the closing prayer.. 7. put a recording of rap, heavy metal, or other forbidden music on instead of the kingdom melodies.. 8. get fifty of your friends to walk around in the stadium during the session, holding signs that say, "louder please!
" and "take your shirt off!
Dress as Sparlock...
i do like Cedars idea though...what a blessing the internet is!
oz
i've finally get my hands on a pdf of one of the two newly released brochures, this one entitled "who are doing jehovah's will today?".
here's a link so you can download your own copy.... http://www66.zippyshare.com/v/98881625/file.html.
predictably, the brochure is extremely vague on key topics.
typical WT propganda
printed by the Wt for the JWs, its not like it is intended for public consumption. The JWs will not bother to even think past self confirmation that all is well and how lucky they are to have the GB
oz
it took almost 3 years after we quietly left our last meeting (memorial 2008) before anyone came looking for us.
after nearly 25 years raising our family in the same hall and it was as if we didn't exist anymore.. that happened about a year ago but yesterday the boys and our daughter in law were here and were all having a late breakfast and lounging around in our robes an p.j's having a nice morning.
we were sitting at the kitchen table looking out the sliding glass door at one of those summer rains where it just buckets down all of a sudden.
He handed me a brochure that said something like " How Would You Like to Wake up Happy and Positive Everyday ?"
I would have passed it back with a smile and said
" I already do...would you like to know why?"
oz
i have collected and assembled hundreds of letters, documents, publications, personal communications, e-mails from the branch etc.
etc.. my original intent was to make some type of searchable database but my time has been taken over by more important things in life for me.
i don't care about the jw's all that much anymore and who or what gets what information i don't really care.
do it...please. somehow all this you speak of needs to become easy to find
oz
completely non-jw related this but value the diversity of experience and viewpoint on this forum.
i am going to sketch this out quick as i can but please ask any questions if the gaps need filling.. as some may know, i have been married for 12 years with two children (8 and 4).
my wife stopped work when the eldest was born and has been a stay at home mum since.
the best you can hope for (other than her doing a 180) is 50/50 care of the children and move on. I know you don't want to hear it.
i refused to stay in an unhappy marriage, one where my wife would have hated me day and night, 'for the sake of the children'. I believed that it really would teach the children the wrong lessons...stay unhappy to make others happy. That does not work. I had (JW) teenagers in households like you discribe tell me that they just wished their parents had the guts to end it instead of making the fake happy family that made them miserable.
I can't say i have not at times wished i had stayed for the kids sake, but it is very rare. In the end, despite my wifes begging (even though she couldn't stand me) i said NO. I did reap the whirlwind of hate but I have had 14 years of rebuliding, during which time i have had a good happy life.
the real regret, is not having the balls and brains to fight for 50/50 custody at the start instead of letting myself get walked over big time.
Sometimes it just has to end, no blame. shit happens, people change. You both have the right to be happy and that probably means what you don't want. You are in a tough place and there are no easy answers.
sometimes only one gets happy again. my ex has remained bitter and vindictive, has alienated her kids. She didn't move on (even though she has remarried). I did. It was a choice. A tough one.
all the best
Oz
the movie in full length is on youtube, it is very violent and contains many sex scenes.....it's filmed in a nice large house which is supposed to be a cult headquarters in the film lol!
at 31 minutes two men talk in the study and in the background the shelves are full of watchtower bound volumes, index, greatest man book and many others....it looks like a bethel library...but 10 minutes before two oral sex scenes took place here!!!!.
just wondering if jehovah's blessing would still be on the house!
I guess thats what many want to think!
come on, it's not hard to get hold of the books in that picture.
things like this make us look stoopid to JWs. This is no proof it was ''filmed in a witness home''.
facts people, just the facts
oz
